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and hard pressed states right now can't all do that. in fact, we've seen layoffs of hundreds of thousands of teachers over the last several years. and governor romney doesn't think we need more teachers, i do. i think that is the kin of investment where the federal government can help. it can't do it all. but it can make a difference, and as a consequence, we'll have a better trained workforce and that will create jobs, because companies want to locate in places where we have a skilled workforce. >> two minutes, governor. on the role of government, your view. >> well, first i love great schools. massachusetts, our schools are ranked number one in all 50 states. the key to great schools is great teachers. i reject the idea that i don't believe in good teachers or great teachers. every school district, every state, should make that decision on their own. the role of government, look behind us. the constitution and declaration of independence. the role of government is to promote and protect the principles of those documents. first, life a
and hard pressed states right now can't all do that. in fact, we've seen layoffs of hundreds of thousands of teachers over the last several years. and governor romney doesn't think we need more teachers, i do. i think that is the kin of investment where the federal government can help. it can't do it all. but it can make a difference, and as a consequence, we'll have a better trained workforce and that will create jobs, because companies want to locate in places where we have a skilled...
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romney kept getting thing done by president obama, his president right saying mitt romney's numbers do not add up? >> no, he was not right. what romney is proposing is lowering tax rates, getting people back to work to generate tax revenues. he never said that taxes on the rich would make up for the deficit. president obama kept saying that. obviously he did not get how that works. tracy: listen to the sound bite from last night, mitt romney talking about the off shoring of businesses and tax businesses. >> to get a deduction for taking a plant overseas? i have been in business 25 years. i have no idea what you are talking about. i maybe need to get a new accountant, but the idea you get a break for sending jobs overseas is simply not the case. tracy: christian, was governor romney right on that point? >> no, he was actually wrong. earnings that do not subject to income tax money that is held offshore in effect incentivizing companies to have offshore jobs and keep the money outside the united states. i don't know where the governor was confused, but actually that is something that is
romney kept getting thing done by president obama, his president right saying mitt romney's numbers do not add up? >> no, he was not right. what romney is proposing is lowering tax rates, getting people back to work to generate tax revenues. he never said that taxes on the rich would make up for the deficit. president obama kept saying that. obviously he did not get how that works. tracy: listen to the sound bite from last night, mitt romney talking about the off shoring of businesses and...
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he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our investments in education or clean energy or research or technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insurance companies. we can't afford to double down on the same topdown economic policies that got us into this mess. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthened middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. and we're not going to do it. we have been there. we have tried th
he's ridiculing mitt romney right now. let's listen in. >> don't want what he's been selling over the last year. governor romney may dance around his positions. he may do a tap dance and a two-step, but if you want to be president, then you owe the american people the truth. so here's the truth. governor romney cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round...
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so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that somehow or other only the first debates matter. i think the other debates will have big audiences. i'm through with the expectations game. i think vice president biden will do very well next week. i think the president will bring his best game to these next two debates. this guy is a fourth quarter player. we saw it on health care and in the 2008 primaries. when the going to gets tough, when the pressure is on, he really steps up to it. i think barack obama whether do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters think about this,do very well in these next two debates and i think as voters thin
so the danger of this tax reform trap that governor romney is trying to sell right now is that you're going to end up with massively lower tax rates and you're not going to broaden the base much at all such that you'll have an explosive budget deficit, it's very much what we saw in the bush supply side trickle down years. >> bob, debatess left. the vice presidential debate, the town hall presidential debate and then the debate on foreign policy. >> i think we throw out the myth that...
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it was a debate between a rusty president obama and a well rehearsed mitt romney. >> reporter: right out of the gate, it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's been there, done that economics. >> the approach that governor romney is talking about is the same sales pitch made in 2001 and 2003. and we ended up with the slowest job growth in 50 years. >> reporter: but whether it was health care, jobs, or medicare, it was romney who stood out for his aggressive style. >> i just don't know how the president could have come into office facing 23 million people out of work, rising unemployment, an economic crisis at the kitchen table and spend his energy and passion for two years fighting for obama care. >> reporter: the president made his points in a slower, laid back manner, often appearing disengaged. it's not th
it was a debate between a rusty president obama and a well rehearsed mitt romney. >> reporter: right out of the gate, it was clear, mitt romney came to play. >> the president has a view very similar to the view he had when he ran four years ago that a bigger government, spending more, taxing more, regulating more, if you will, trickle down government would work. >> reporter: president obama sounded a familiar alarm, warning of romney's been there, done that economics. >>...
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hilary's right. he was shocked at all this new romney stuff. he still could have listened. he still could have reacted to some of what mitt romney said. >> he said something about needs to get a better accountant. >> he absolutely said your math doesn't add up. you're going to cut taxes by 20%. he said, no, i'm not going to cut any taxes but i'm going to cut taxes for the people who pay them by 20% and then i'm going to find them money through these loopholes. which loopholes? there's a thousand tax credits and loopholes. he didn't name one. not one. >> no, but one thing we know is -- >> what he proposed was a general cap on the number of loopholes you can claim, which is actually a totally reasonable way to do tax reform. it gets you out of the problem of sort of litigating each and every loop. >> arguing about substance. why? >> here is something that the president clearly did which was he said, all right, mitt romney's going to go out and do this. in many ways mitt romney just made the next three weeks for himself miserable. >> oh, sure. totally. he's going to be sitting
hilary's right. he was shocked at all this new romney stuff. he still could have listened. he still could have reacted to some of what mitt romney said. >> he said something about needs to get a better accountant. >> he absolutely said your math doesn't add up. you're going to cut taxes by 20%. he said, no, i'm not going to cut any taxes but i'm going to cut taxes for the people who pay them by 20% and then i'm going to find them money through these loopholes. which loopholes?...
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romney went right into a call from north american energy self-sufficiently, coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s. use. that's not the case for the users of coal. the users, people. and that's why i said romney's giving you a heads up to buy american electric and power, two coal building utilities that have to spend far less retrofitting facilities under romney staff epa. i would be a seller of the console energies in the pea bodies in the strength. i take down union pacific. it is the carrier of clean coal. i would never recommend a company on this show with bad fund am fundamentals. but they can be justified even with this sitting president. the pure coal plays are faltering fundamentally. there is no way i'm going to buy them based on some off handed debate patter. you want a
romney went right into a call from north american energy self-sufficiently, coal as an endangered species under obama. listen. >> i like coal. i want to make sure we can continue to burn clean coal. people in the coal industry feel like it's getting crushed by your policies. >> lots of bozos went in and bought the coal stocks. all the coal stocks on. this wrong take away, people! coal's hostage to chinese demand more than u.s. use. that's not the case for the users of coal. the...
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we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with the governor's performance tonight. i think it gave him an opportunity he hasn't had before with people who are undecided. they had to have walked away tonight impressed by what they heard and saw. >> greta: i thought one of the questions governor romney handled well was the bipartisan question. we had a discussion about the fact there is no budget. we can't get a budget here because senator harry reid doesn't want that to happen. that is where there is a lot of tie up. as a rin governor in a very democratic state of massachusetts he got things passed. >> h
we don't see a lot of things on ads tonight. >> right. i think that is good for the american people because it's a substantive discussion about issues and i thought that again, that governor romney came across with great command and energy. and that i'm certain next time he'll be better prepared. and there is a discussion about what's happening in latest attack ad. it's about the issues and i thought that it was for that reason a good debate. that was very impressed by and pleased with...
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you could see mitt romney had prepared, was crisp, was right on. this felt more like a guy who hasn't debated for four years, to me. it looked like he wasn't honed, he wasn't in fighting weight on those points. >> inexcusable on his prep team? the romney team didn't make it a secret that they've been preparing. >> prepping all along. look, the thing is ultimately it's partly the fault of the prep team but the president's got -- it's difficult after four years, you know, you haven't debated. it's a different formaformat. he's got to do that. even on the clean energy stuff i think there what mitt romney was referring to was loan guarantees where obviously it doesn't cost $90 billion if the loan guarantee is on a $90 billion sized loan. it's only the loss rate times 90 billion. >> it wasn't just those particular companies. that's why he was wrong. >> so the president just didn't make that clear. and i think the bigger thing was the medicare charge. >> $716. we talked about that earlier. some of us were surprised. >> and it was usually piled on with th
you could see mitt romney had prepared, was crisp, was right on. this felt more like a guy who hasn't debated for four years, to me. it looked like he wasn't honed, he wasn't in fighting weight on those points. >> inexcusable on his prep team? the romney team didn't make it a secret that they've been preparing. >> prepping all along. look, the thing is ultimately it's partly the fault of the prep team but the president's got -- it's difficult after four years, you know, you haven't...
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and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen among politicians. his secret weapon, just stating it like it is. peter johnson, jr. joins us live right now. >> it was substance. it was specifics. it was hard facts and in doing it, mitt romney crushed the president last night. i think everybody is agreeing on that. we had our research department here at fox, what's known as the brain room, they looked only at the statistics. i think if we looked at concepts, if we look at other stuff, we'd see it higher. when they went head to head, we see mitt romney delivered the stunning blow in terms of statistic after statistic afte
and mitt romney getting in a game of jinga right before the debate. here he is with ann in their hotel room waiting for his turn to play. he was joined by three of his sons and one of his grandchildren. a good day for jinga. i find it frustrating. more on that when we return. >> you're entitled as president to your own airplane and your own house, but not to your own facts. >> steve: zing. mitt romney comes out swinging last night and he did stick to the facts, a tactic rarely seen...
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and brushed aside and all of these problems the numbers seem to be known to everybody including mitt romney but exactly what and who should be doing something about this is apparently still a mystery all right well hopefully it does get discussed more and makes its way into. i guess the priorities of our elected leaders i guess we're going have to wait and see but on a selfie i thank you so much for for coming on the show that was our to correspond on a saw theater in a. well that's going to wrap it up for this hour but for more on the stories we covered you can check out our you tube channel that is youtube dot com slash our to america we post all of our stories on line there in full or you can also check out our web site that address is our t.v. dot com slash u.s. air web team our web producers are busy working on stories that we don't always have time to think get to on the air and to see what i'm doing when i am not reporting the news you can also follow me on twitter liz wahl we will be right back here at eight pm but breaking the set with abby martin is coming up in just a half hour s
and brushed aside and all of these problems the numbers seem to be known to everybody including mitt romney but exactly what and who should be doing something about this is apparently still a mystery all right well hopefully it does get discussed more and makes its way into. i guess the priorities of our elected leaders i guess we're going have to wait and see but on a selfie i thank you so much for for coming on the show that was our to correspond on a saw theater in a. well that's going to...
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into attacking mitt romney. clearly, trying to rebound from what some considered a
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so i believe that governor romney was absolutely right on when he said that he invested too much capital in obamacare, which was his personal objective. you will recall, martha, that the person people when they were polled they didn't want that version of obamacare, they didn't want that version but he passed it anyway rather than focus on how you really create jobs. so i believe that governor romney nailed him on that. martha: we're talking to you about jobs here. here is another piece of sound last night that has to do a little bit with the way that money has been spent on the new energy spropbt. let' front. let's watch. >> don't forget you put $90 billion, like 50 years worth of breaks into solar and wind, to lind to solyndra, and tekskla. i had a friend that said you don't just pick the winners, you pick the losers. martha: that got a laugh from the reaction. it goes to the heart of the question as to whether the government should be attempting to pick winners and losers in new technology. >> and they should not. this is a perfect example of how governor romney was so prepared, that
so i believe that governor romney was absolutely right on when he said that he invested too much capital in obamacare, which was his personal objective. you will recall, martha, that the person people when they were polled they didn't want that version of obamacare, they didn't want that version but he passed it anyway rather than focus on how you really create jobs. so i believe that governor romney nailed him on that. martha: we're talking to you about jobs here. here is another piece of...
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and it's trading lower right now at the open by 4%. let's check in with bob pisani here on the floor with more of what is moving this morning. bob. >> reporter: so are we getting a romney bounce for stocks this morning? look, i think everybody agrees, governor romney did very well, better than some people thought. you noticed europe. this is what i watch every morning, get up, 3:00, look at how europe's going to open. and normally europe opens strong. we open strong. but this morning europe has been meandering. not a lot of trends earlier on. but our market was up overnight. nicely. and some people are attributing this to a potential romney -- potential romney strong showing. a lot of people feel that the stock market might be better under governor romney. elsewhere, i want to talk about health care stocks because here's the flip side of this. remember, there has been a sort of health care on trade. let's just call it that. ever since the democratic convention, the end of august, under certain assumptions that perhaps president obama w
and it's trading lower right now at the open by 4%. let's check in with bob pisani here on the floor with more of what is moving this morning. bob. >> reporter: so are we getting a romney bounce for stocks this morning? look, i think everybody agrees, governor romney did very well, better than some people thought. you noticed europe. this is what i watch every morning, get up, 3:00, look at how europe's going to open. and normally europe opens strong. we open strong. but this morning...
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. >> that's the right sound bite. after that sound bite, obama then attacked jet owners saying if you have a private jet you should be taxed more. even romney, he's pretty wealthy himself, he refused to come to the support of the wealthy. skip that sound bite i guess. of course, no one should feel sorry for the rich. let's save our tears for poor big bird. but the debate showed both sides are really trying to distance themselves from the 1% even though 1% pay a lot of taxes in this country and of course they are funding a lot of this race and a lot of money for these two candidates. >> twaes geit was genius. romney's move more to the sernd was the best thing he could have done. i wrote months ago why he should support the buffett rule. i know it is painful. i understand a lot of our viewers will be hit by it but it takes it off the board politically. genius political move by romney last night. >> we'll see whether or not it actually works and pays off. >> i agree. >> it only matter if the undecideds watched the debate
. >> that's the right sound bite. after that sound bite, obama then attacked jet owners saying if you have a private jet you should be taxed more. even romney, he's pretty wealthy himself, he refused to come to the support of the wealthy. skip that sound bite i guess. of course, no one should feel sorry for the rich. let's save our tears for poor big bird. but the debate showed both sides are really trying to distance themselves from the 1% even though 1% pay a lot of taxes in this...
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governor romney and his running mate paul ryan are holding a rally right now in the battleground state of virginia. we'll go there live in a moment. that's trace at begins on stage. today, the president was back on the campaign trail, too. he told a crowd in denver the guy he faced off against last night was not the real governor romney. >> he said that he doesn't even know that there is such laws that encourage outsourcing. he says that if it's true he must need a new account stand. [ laughter ] now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. >> the romney campaign fired back, quote: president obama offered no defense of his record and no vision for the future. president obama simply offered more false attacks and renewed his call for job-killing tax hikes. earlier today, the president's senior campaign advisor david axelrod said this about the debate. the president's never satisfied with his performance. he is always challenging himself. and he will review it if he wants to make changes in the next debate, he w
governor romney and his running mate paul ryan are holding a rally right now in the battleground state of virginia. we'll go there live in a moment. that's trace at begins on stage. today, the president was back on the campaign trail, too. he told a crowd in denver the guy he faced off against last night was not the real governor romney. >> he said that he doesn't even know that there is such laws that encourage outsourcing. he says that if it's true he must need a new account stand. [...
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a very tight race right now. each candidate coming in obviously wanting to get a message across last night. what do you think, were they each successful making their point to the american public? >> well, i think romney was successful in sort of reassuring voters that he understands their problems and that he wants to create jobs. he wasn't very specific about the details of his plan in that regard. obama didn't show that passion. he didn't seem to be energetic and let romney take the tempo of the debate from him. >> we're always looking for those little nuggets. donald trump got a mention last night. mitt romney using sesame street in part of his debate. working very hard to get a point across. he cut off moderator jim lehrer several times, including this one. watch it. >> so i get rid of that. i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. and i like pbs, i love big bird, i actually love you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> tell me how
a very tight race right now. each candidate coming in obviously wanting to get a message across last night. what do you think, were they each successful making their point to the american public? >> well, i think romney was successful in sort of reassuring voters that he understands their problems and that he wants to create jobs. he wasn't very specific about the details of his plan in that regard. obama didn't show that passion. he didn't seem to be energetic and let romney take the...
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and the groups on the left and governor rod and groups on the right it is governor romney side as heavyweight on television but it's relatively close but it is an aggregate that the is on is on that site. that is an important part. this used to be the party committees, republican national committee and the democratic national committee used to be able to do this. as well intentioned as finance reform is, basically the entities that are most accountable for the voters at the candidates themselves. they have to go out, put their faces in in adeimantus i i've authorized is. they're ultimately the people are voted on. a kind of next let out would be the party committees because of their control by the elected officials. they are held to account, the closest thing other than the candidates being held to account by the voters. what you saw is a figure that out in terms of the party committee site. they figure that out right away, and you have done this. this is the result of a large of people wanting to think that money has no place in politics and what they did is they ended up putting money outsi
and the groups on the left and governor rod and groups on the right it is governor romney side as heavyweight on television but it's relatively close but it is an aggregate that the is on is on that site. that is an important part. this used to be the party committees, republican national committee and the democratic national committee used to be able to do this. as well intentioned as finance reform is, basically the entities that are most accountable for the voters at the candidates...
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do you think governor romney comes out swinging right off the bat? what do you think he is going to be pressured and asked about in terms of specifics on his economic plan? >> overall i don't expect a whole lot of specifics from either one. in the last several weeks the whole of the discussion has been on debate techniques and who's going to make the biggest gaffe. hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. but i don't know if they'll get around to what i consider the biggest financial issues, the debt crisis that we have. and what are they going to do about it. and how do they relate to the federal reserve. say we can't have much to do with it. let the fed monetize the debt and go on and on? i have not heard from either one of them actually cutting something. so i'm afraid the important issue of the financial crisis that we're in the middle of is going to get worse. my prediction is they won't really deal with it tonight. if they do talk about it, i think the answers will be muffled and they'll sort of talk about it the same way about what to do abo
do you think governor romney comes out swinging right off the bat? what do you think he is going to be pressured and asked about in terms of specifics on his economic plan? >> overall i don't expect a whole lot of specifics from either one. in the last several weeks the whole of the discussion has been on debate techniques and who's going to make the biggest gaffe. hopefully they'll get to the bottom of it. but i don't know if they'll get around to what i consider the biggest financial...
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but you'll keep it to yogurt, right? 'cause we shouldn't really help with your love life. yoplait. it is so good! >>> now to decision 2012 and the presidential debate that many are saying is reviving the romney campaign. this morning the reviews are in and by most accounts president obama's republican rival held his own and then some. the pressure was on mitt romney, who needed a turn-around last night. president obama came into the debate ahead in every battleground state with an estimated 60 million americans watching on tv, cable and the web, moderator jim lehre rechlt asked can you put more people to work? romney says he would cut taxes and regulations on small businesses. a proposal the president claims would help the rich at others' expense. >> the average middle class family with children would pay about $2,000 more. >> virtually everything he said is inaccurate. >> it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that say only affect high-income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class. it's math. it's arithmetic. >> a m
but you'll keep it to yogurt, right? 'cause we shouldn't really help with your love life. yoplait. it is so good! >>> now to decision 2012 and the presidential debate that many are saying is reviving the romney campaign. this morning the reviews are in and by most accounts president obama's republican rival held his own and then some. the pressure was on mitt romney, who needed a turn-around last night. president obama came into the debate ahead in every battleground state with an...
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romney has a real chance to govern with the center-right agenda and obama will have to come to the center if he wants to govern. >> back in the corner there's a question. >> sabrina siddiqui with the "huffington post." the last couple of weeks in particular have been very difficult for governor romney and his campaign. they've announced a couple of restarts or reboot says they've called them. where do you think his campaign has been missing the mark and what do you think he needs to come out and do where do you think his campaign has been missing the mark and what do you think he needs to come out and do in the first presidential debate in the remaining missing the mark and what do you think he needs to come out and do in the first presidential debate and the remaining five weeks? >> so i ran for president and failed miserably. i'm in no position to opine on this one. that is for darn sure. i am not much of a political analyst anyway. but let me just draw from a little bit of experience and say that, you know, it helps when you look into the camera and you speak from the heart in ways tha
romney has a real chance to govern with the center-right agenda and obama will have to come to the center if he wants to govern. >> back in the corner there's a question. >> sabrina siddiqui with the "huffington post." the last couple of weeks in particular have been very difficult for governor romney and his campaign. they've announced a couple of restarts or reboot says they've called them. where do you think his campaign has been missing the mark and what do you think...